Sunday, October 11, 2015

Franny and Zooey Community Journal [English 12 Honors]

Should I teach Franny and Zooey next year? (Please submit your response by Wednesday, October 14.)

55 comments:

  1. To be honest no, because all two-hundred of these pages just have only three to four scenes. It was too descriptive on the setting rather than the actual story line. The beginning was excellent; however as soon as it got to the Zooey part, the book went down hill.

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  2. I think Franny and Zooey should be taught again next year. The level of reading and the amount of analyzing needed to understand the book wasn't necessarily more difficult, but it was something new to experience. I found it to be thoroughly engaging. I also think that the theme of the book is one that everyone can relate to (finding ways to avoid things one doesn't like in life). Even if someone isn't religious, this book can give the reader more insight to what religion is about and creates a better understanding of the world.

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  3. Franny and Zooey was a good book to get students thinking. It required more thought than usual. I would definitely recommend teaching this book again because not only did it require a high level of thinking, it challenged each student in a different way. I think the activities that went along with the book were also adequate in expanding our understanding of the book.

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  4. Yes. I believe that his book has many aspects that high school students need to know about. This book touches on subjects like being fake and the downfalls involved with it, the education system and what could be wrong with it, and what life after high school might be like. Some high school students really need to read something like this so that they may obtain a different perspective on what they think is important or correct. I hope you leave the reading schedule the same as you had it originally, but just be harder on getting students to read. Reading thirty pages at a time helps us fully grasp what is happening and get all of the information in the scene without having to be interrupted in the middle.

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  5. Yes and No. I really liked the first part of the book about Franny and her interactions with Lane because they were intriguing and it was exciting trying to figure out what kind of relationship the two have. However, once the book moved on to the part about Zooey I had a short attention span because of the scenes being quite bland to me. I think if you want to teach a book about allusions and vocabulary then this would be the book. It is also a good book to learn characterization from. It just didn't interest me as much as I had anticipated.

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  6. I don't think you should teach this book next year. It was okay that it was difficult because I learned a lot of new vocabulary and allusions; however, I just couldn't get into the book. The first section on "Franny" I found more interesting and was able to read it no problem. Once I got to the "Zooey" part I got lost so easy. I also didn't like how the time period within the book was only within a day or two. I felt like I was not getting anywhere when I was reading. I feel as if there are better reads that will get the students more into the books themselves. I noticed a lot of students including myself weren't coming to class prepared. I feel by changing the novel more students will read it with less fuss and issues.

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    1. I totally agree with you Audrina. Zooeys part was much more difficult to read than Frannys part, which made me stress a bit more when I was trying to understand and relate the characters to the novels.

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  7. Yes, because I feel like we should read one book in class for the year. I think it helped us get warmed up to being back in school. It was a good way to get us warmed up for the upcoming year ahead of us. I believe that this book should be read again next year, because it helps us to get ready for the school year.

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  8. Yes, I do think you should teach Franny and Zooey again next year. It was a thought provoking book that could definitely stir up some vivid conversations. Also, the vocabulary featured in the book was pretty complex. I believe this is a good thing because it allows students to expand his or her vocabulary. Keeping a vocabulary journal was also a good idea because then a student could look up any unfamiliar word he or she came across, the moment it happened. The style of the book was also different. The perspective and whatnot was different than what I had been exposed to in the past so I believe this made for a very interesting read.

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  9. I find that the literary work Franny and Zooey by J.D. Salinger was a wonderful experience that kept me anticipating for the end. I find that teaching Franny and Zooey next year would be an awesome idea, since the novel itself felt like a realistic story. I guess the slice-of-life theme is what made me cherish this novel. When learning about the allusions stated in the novel, the novel's message became deeper. Throughout the novel it was like the student had to "read between the lines" in order to understand what was really going on, which can further help students later on better analyze text.

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  10. Definitely! For those who take the novel seriously and keep up with the readings, it's an enlightening experience. More discussion could perhaps make the novel easier to understand for certain people, and for others, they can interpret the book themselves. I would certainly recommend that everyone read this at some point, and what better time to read it than now, in high school? J. D. Salinger is still an extremely important contemporary author, and his works should definitely be taught in school. Its tidbits on religion, education, and intellect should be widely appreciated and acknowledged, especially for students who are undergoing the transition to adulthood and are currently learning more about the world. It offers a variety of perspectives so that every reader can take something out from the book.

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  11. Although the novel provides great detail about different types of people and their reactions, I do not believe this novel should be taught next year. The novel itself is written beautifully, but the context is a bit confusing to understand when we have not read the religious afflictions associated with the characters points of view. Religious novels are defiantly something everyone should read, but in this case, very few of us understood the religious allusions because we had not read or understood those books. Personally, I do not like books or novels that are in a shorter period of time; but, with so many descriptive sentences and paragraphs, the novel becomes over-whelming when trying to relate the parts of the novel itself to the characters.

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  12. I believe this novel should not be taught next year. The novel started off with Lane and Franny and their relationship together. I was excited to see where their relationship would take them, but the book soon cut off and went to a new scene in which it introduced the Glass Family. The book had way too many terms that needed to be looked up and was constantly an argument between Zooey and his family members.

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  13. Wrought with nuanced symbolism and detailed character development, I connected with many of the emotional anecdotes and intellectual exchanges from J.D. Salinger's Franny and Zooey. The book provided information poetically, and for next year's crop of students, it could inspire both conversation and mediation. Teaching the book again should be based on what you think the book will accomplish for the students and how you think it will significantly impact them. Personally, I enjoyed the book enough to recommend your choosing it again for next year's students.

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  14. I absolutely think that you should teach Franny and Zooey next year. Throughout my academic career, I have had a very hard time getting into assigned literatures, but I fell completely in love with this book. Even though the characters in Franny and Zooey are intelligent beyond the level most of us are familiar with, their beliefs about the world around them are very easy to relate to. Not only do they push forward new concepts, but it’s challenging not to find yourself nodding your head in agreement. In addition, the way J.D. Salinger wrote the book makes it a great option for high school readers. A lot of times, the authors’ use of vocabulary in a work will make it impossible to understand without analyzing and re-analyzing every word read, which is tiresome and can throw a lot of students off. This was not the case for Franny and Zooey. Even though Salinger used a complex vocabulary, the novel was easy to read and follow. I have a huge appreciation for any author that doesn’t have to dumb down his work to make it comprehensible.

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  16. I do not think that Franny and Zooey should be taught next year. Personally, I didn't feel that involved with the book which was a huge letdown for me because I like reading books that I feel connected with. I also feel like I didn't really take anything away from the book. What I did enjoy about this book was researching the allusions that Salinger made.

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  17. I believe Franny and Zooey should be read again. The book is very thought provoking and has a lot of outside references that students can look up and widen their knowledge with. The book also has a lot of words students have heard of and this gives the students a chance to learn new words. Franny and Zooey is a different style of writing and is a great book to read and discuss in class.

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    1. very true with the outside references and it was written awhile back so not as many people know the references so it is even more interesting when they actually look up the things they are reading about.

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  18. I feel that the novel Franny and Zooey was a great experience for people to hear about. It truly covers what people see in their lives. What people do and say truly matters and the reader gets to look at this critically throughout the novel of the impacts of what people say and do in their lives. I think that the novel depicts this very well and is a good life lesson for someone to learn as their senior year in high school and their last step to adulthood. It is important that they know that what they say and do matters to someone else even if the person that said it does not think it is significant.

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  19. The novel Franny and Zooey should be taught next year. The first three-fourths of the book was extremely boring and seemed irrelevant, but the end turned out to be very sentimental to me and I thought Zooey was a nice guy. I could also relate to the characters pretty well, especially with intelligent students in the program, I think that they will come to appreciate the novel in the end. The book wasn’t necessarily too hard to read and I think that a lot of student will find themselves relating to the characters.

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  20. I believe that Franny and Zooey should be taught next year, however there should be some background reading of the religious allusions before diving into the novel. Personally, I didn't fully comprehend the aspects of the novel until further investigation of religious works referenced within the novel. If you were to teach it next year, you should provide the students with excerpts of the works mentioned in the story.

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  21. I think Franny and Zooey should be taught next year. Although I think most of us students were disappointed that there wasn't anymore to part 1, it still taught a valuable lesson along with a good read that strengthened our vocabulary.

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  22. I believe this book should be taught every year. Yes, it has religion and yes, religion is a very touchy subject but it has essences from every religion around the world. With this book you really get exposed to things that can change your life such as countless allusions. Franny and Zooey give great lessons through their conversations and I feel more students should experience this spiritual journey.

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  23. Although I enjoyed this book, I do not think it should be taught next year. The book "Franny and Zooey" has great metaphors and symbolism but I found it more effective when I reread over a two day period then I did in a six week period. The book is also confusing when changing stories and perspectives in the middle, when I personal thought the book started to get good. When we began reading the Zooey part of the book everything seemed to be in slow motion for me and took forever to get through, something I feel that can be explained in half the pages the book used to be written. I do enjoy Franny's journey and her take of life at the end but I feel that I would enjoy Seymour's story and maybe their childhood story more. I think there was a lot of back story to the book that should have been placed into the book or the book should have a prequel to reading the novel.

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  24. No, I do not think this novel should be taught next year. I feel like a book can be intellectual and also be interesting and I feel that a lot of my peers and I agree that Franny and Zooey did not possess both of those things. It was a difficult read because it was overly descriptive to a point where it took away from the actual meaning of the book.

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    1. Who are you? It appears to me that most students enjoyed the experience.

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  25. I absolutely think this book should be taught next year, and I think every school should be teaching it. The flaw in our education system is that the methods of teaching often stymie creative or outside-of-the-box thinking; this book is intellectually stimulating and makes the reader consider multiple sides of a situation. It introduces alternative ways of thinking, and that is an important thing to be exposed to in a system where we very rarely get the opportunity to do so. I loved this book and I loved how honest it was, and I think that it is exactly the kind of book we should be reading in school.

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  26. I believe that Franny and Zooey should be taught next year. This book makes students question mysticism and other topics that they probably haven't encountered in literature before. Franny and Zooey also causes students to consider sociological issues. I think that many students can relate to Franny with discovering their identity. Students also have the opportunity to learn new vocabulary and allusions. I know my vocabulary definitely expanded from reading Franny and Zooey.

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  27. I believe this book should be read next year. This book wasn't overly difficult to read, but made me as the reader think. I loved the very casually intellectual feel, and there were several times in this book I had to stop, think, and analyze. To me this is way more interesting than reading a book I can't understand, or a book that is too simple putting me to sleep. Others have said that the book was too slow and only had a few scenes making it dull. I disagree the attention to detail was phenomenal, making the book feel like a screen play. This made every part of the book come to life making the characters feel real, and fully developed. A tip to reading this book is imagine making it a movie, imagine all the tiny things one would have to add to make the movie accurate. This made the book real jump off the pages. This book was great please continue to use it!

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  28. I think that Franny and Zooey should be left out of the curriculum for next year. I found that throughout the book there were many points that I found interesting but that were only introduced and never fully explored. I was very interested to see how Franny and Lane's relationship played out due to the fact that she was beginning to hate things about society that made up who Lane was as a person. She was beginning to hate fake and pompous people and from what we saw, those two words would be the first words I would use to describe him. Additionally, I found that the book was nothing more than an endless conversation between Franny and Zooey. It was a conversation that you really had to be interested in in order to understand. Due to the fact that I had a hard time finding interest in what they were saying. I like books that I can be engaged in, and I just didn't get that experience with this book.

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  29. Yes, I think you should teach Franny and Zooey next year. It wasn't my favorite book, and I can definitely say it was not exactly riveting, but I think it teaches very valuable lessons that high schoolers need to learn. The book talks about ego and fakeness, and about having respect for all people. It was eye-opening for me, and I think everyone can learn from this book.

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  30. I don't think you should teach the book next year. There was a huge extension on description throughout the book and the whole story was very static and because of it there was no real climax that had anyone excited. If we had a book with more action and excitement in it, students would be more prepared and more involved with the assignments involving the reading.

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  31. I definitely do think that you should teach Franny and Zooey next year. It was a challenge because of the new vocabulary and allusions; however, it was a good challenge. It teaches a lot of valuable life lessons that we can apply to our own lives. I think J.D. Salinger's voice in the book is great, and he raises a lot of really important points. This book is relatable. I feel like future students will enjoy it as much as I have.

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  32. I really did enjoy reading Franny and Zooey. I personally thought that it was a book that somewhat was about Salinger's life. It was interesting to watch the documentary about Salinger, and then read notice the similarities in his life. I feel as if this made the book easier to comprehend and more enjoyable. I loved reading about Salinger, because it was like looking into a piece of his soul. There were some pages were one could absolutely know what Salinger thought about a certain topic, just by reading a passage that matched up with his life. It also made the book easier to comprehend. I was able to break down Salinger's work into something that I identified with. Everyone struggles with something, as does Franny. Everyone is a hero at some point, just like Zooey, everyone is a fool in some areas, just like Mrs. Glass, and everyone at some point, is a a spectator, exactly as Buddy was. I think this is why Franny and Zooey is brilliant because even the most avid reader, as yours truly, has never read something that was from the soul that was so artfully crafted. I recommend anyone to read this book, because even if they are of the person who does not read as much, they will still have a wonderful piece of literature under their belts.

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  33. I don't think that Franny and Zooey should be taught next year. I didn't connect with it at all and it didn't have an emotional appeal to me. I like books I can relate to in some aspect. Also, Zooey was a really tough read but I really liked Franny. The story was very anticlimactical and nothing really happened. The characters were very static and the stories had no big events that made me interested and there was no build up to a big event. Over all, I don't think it should be taught next year.

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  34. I didn't disliked nor liked the book Franny and Zooey, but I believe it should be taught next year. I think the themes of the novel really coincide with what students in this program feel. They can relate to a lot of the topics discussed and the way other students tackle problems like religious turmoil and intellectual gaps. I think it should be taught next year.

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  35. I don't think that you should teach Franny and Zooey next year. From an informational and English teacher perspective I can see how it could be useful. However, as a student the books plot didn't really go anywhere and this made it less exciting and harder to read. If the book was geared more towards young readers, reading schedules might not even be a problem.

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  36. I loved Franny and Zooey, and I do think you should continue to teach this novel. The only thing I would change is rather than focusing teachings on minor details, I think next year you should have class discussion based on the broader themes of the book. Also, the ending of the novel was pretty confusing and I think next year you should have a classroom discussion or assignment to wrap up the novel, or help students try to understand the ending.

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  37. I think you should teach Franny and Zooey OR a book equivalent in intellect. I don't know what book that would be though. Franny and Zooey didn't get interesting until I understood the concepts they were discussing in the book. But I think that the conceptual ideas in Franny and Zooey should be brought to some more light and then that should hopefully intrigue the students to read into the novel (like what happened to me).
    But the philosophical/conceptual book that Franny and Zooey is should be taught or be equivalently replaced.

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  38. I enjoyed this novel, but the entire time I was reading it I was way too caught up in trying to understand and interpret the text rather than enjoy it. In my opinion, Franny and Zooey is a very interesting book that I learned quite a few things from, but I would not have been able to understand it without going over it in class. It is very stressful to read a book for school that requires you to sit, ponder, and try to translate it into simpler terms every other line. I am glad we read this book this year, but I would not recommend teaching it again next year.

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  39. Personally I feel that you should not teach this book next year. This book was not every interesting other than the beginning of the book. Not much happened in the second part other than Zooey talking to Franny. It was not a real page turner or had much of a plot line.

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  40. I will say that you should teach Franny and Zooey next year but I would like for you to incorporate last year's idea of choosing the book that we would want to read from two or three of your literature choosing as some of your students hadn't fully enjoyed reading the book.

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    1. I like the seconds idea. Some people really did not enjoy this novel whilst others really loved it. Perhaps letting students chose is the better option.

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  41. Franny and Zooey was an inspirational book for me to read and I learned quit a lot from the various perspectives that each of the charterers held. The different viewpoint on what it means for someone to be so intellectual smart was eye opening for me. Learning about what it takes to function in society and get along with others and their understanding of particular topics. I honestly would not know what to do with the amount of knowledge that Seymour, Buddy, Franny and Zooey have learned reading their philosophical stories and religious ideologies. I believe Franny and Zooey is a novel that should be brought up again for the students of next school year.

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  42. I think you should teach Franny and Zooey next year. I believe that the book will be relatable to students here since we are intellectuals and this book is a story about intellectuals and the problems they face.

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  43. Yes, Franny and Zooey should be taught again next year. The novel focuses on a both spiritual and existential crises, which is something many people face. Besides that, Just as Salinger seems to also do in The Catcher in the Rye, he addresses the idea that people have fake fronts. The text is quite relatable for people of any age, but particularly at a transitional place in life. Students at this point are trying to transition into the real world and establish their beliefs and ideals, and this novel emphasizes the importance of doing such things.

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  44. I would like to see you continue teaching Franny and Zooey. I found this book to be mostly enjoyable; it is relatable and appropriately challenging. I do have a few problems with the storyline, however; I found the plot to be somewhat dull and uneventful. I felt that too much of the plot was concentrated around a few select scenes. I got lost far too easily in the density of the material in part two. I find Franny's spiritual crisis to be relatable and applicable to many young people's lives. Overall, Franny and Zooey was an interesting read and I appreciate the experience.

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  46. Absolutely 1 million percent yes. This book was informative, a challenge for the reader, and if you thought and analyzed the text then you got something out of it. In this time as a senior a lot of people, including myself, are trying to figure things out as a person, and religion is one of those things. The story is relatable because they're in the same age group, and for the most part we as a group are as intellectual as Franny and Zooey are. Through the period of this book I've been going through a lot deciding about religion, and this book seriously helped me, and I think it will help future students as well even if they aren't spiritual.

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  47. I do not think that you should teach Franny and Zooey again next year. While it was an okay book it was a bit boring.It could maybe be an extra credit assignment as it is somewhat challenging and intellectual but not interesting. Overall I would not recommend it to be taught next year.

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  48. Franny and Zooey has to be one of my favorite books. Although some sections required me to reread to fully understand and comprehend the message, I really enjoyed it. I also believe that Franny and Zooey is a very relatable novel not only on a personal level but many others experience it or have experienced the side effects of too much knowledge. I believe it should be definitely taught next year!

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  49. I believe that this book was a very interesting read and that next years' seniors should read it as well. I find that it had enough of a story line to grasp my attention and it definitely increased my internal lexicon of words as well. I truly enjoyed it and believe that the people for next year will enjoy it as well.

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  50. Franny and Zooey was not a very thought provoking book to me, and I didn’t really understand some of the questions that were given. The reading schedule was not very hard to keep up with, but the book did not have enough substance for me to enjoy. I would not recommend this book to teach next year.

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  51. I think that Franny and Zooey should absolutely be taught again-BUT! But, not next year. Reason being? The Martian is the best book of all time and you should do that next year. Yea, just do that.

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